Category Archives: Frogmore House

FROGMORE UPDATE

Many readers will remember GERA’s unsuccessful “ Save Frogmore Campaign” (1 Wahgoo Road, Carnegie) and Glen Eira Council’s shameful 9/6/2015 decision to abandon applying heritage protection to Frogmore House before it could be assessed by an Independent Planning Panel (effectively denying all stakeholders access to the appropriate due planning scheme amendment process). The end result being the demolition of Frogmore House occurring in July, 2015.

Unfortunately, it appears that an addendum has recently been added to the shameful Frogmore Saga.   This time it is related to processing the of the planning permit application for a two storey Aged Care Facility which includes a proposal to remove 88 trees from the site.

BRIEF RECAP

The 9/6/2015 decision to abandon heritage decision for Frogmore was made

  • despite
    • a Council commissioned Independent Heritage Expert Assessment (Jan, 2015), which unequivocally recommended Heritage Protection at the Municipal Level.
    • it being inconsistent with the Glen Eira Municipal Strategic Statement, Glen Eira Planning Scheme and the 1987 Planning and Environment Act objectives of planning for Victoria. Inadequate strategic justification was provided to support this inconsistency.
    • a recommendation from the National Trust
    • considerable community support for Heritage Protection to be applied to Frogmore (petition of approx. 1000 signatures, planning conference 300+ letters of support for protection vs. 2 against protection)
    • Council’s
      • Instigation (reportedly by Mayor Magee) of an Interim Protection Order for Frogmore in Jan, 2015
      • 2/2/2015 6 to 3 decision to proceed with Heritage Protection based on the January, 2015 Heritage Advisor’s Report (For Protection Crs. Sounness, Okotel, Lobo, Delahunty, Esakoff and Magee; Against Protection Crs. Pilling, Hyams and Lipshutz)
  • based on
    • reliance on an inappropriate process (the planning permit approval process) to determined Heritage Values vs. the appropriate Planning Scheme Amendment process
    • reliance on an outdated (2002) Municipal Wide Heritage Assessment that recognised Frogmore as significant but excluded it from Heritage Protection in part because in was not located in a heritage protection area.   This flawed 2002 application of  the “safety in numbers” concept to heritage determination overrode the January 2015 assessment (which in addition to many other factors), recommended protection due to it’s individual location (rarity) and took into account social and demographic changes that had occurred since 2002. “It’s a victim of it’s own rarity”
    • that the potential purchaser (Jewish Care) had acted in good faith and undertaken significant expenditure in identifying and negotiating the site for re-development as an Aged Care Facility. FYI – caveat emptor is not listed as either a planning or heritage consideration
    • an unsubstantiated determination of Net Community Benefit of 120 beds. With 120 beds equating Jewish Care’s assessment of site potential if Frogmore wasn’t retained.  Clearly, this net community benefit calculation ascribes a zero value to heritage.
    • the decision of Heritage Victoria not to award State Level Protection to Frogmore which was a decision based on an assessment at the broader State Level rather than smaller Municipal Level. Council’s use of the Heritage Victoria decision as a justification, ignores the fact that Heritage Protection, within Australia, provides for heritage recognition and protection at the Municipal Level. It also ignores the fact that Council’s commissioned 01/ 2015, Heritage Advisors Assessment was undertaken at the Municipal Level and recommends protection at that level

 “Frogmore is significant to the locality of Carnegie and Murrumbeena and City of Glen Eira and should be conserved as one of the cultural assets of the city   … Frogmore House should be included in the schedule to heritage over lay clause 43.01 by the Glen Eira Planning Scheme”.

  • a casting vote – in the absence of the Mayor (Magee) and declarations of conflicts of interest (arising since February, 2015) from the Deputy Mayor (Delahunty) and Cr. Esakoff, the immediate past Mayor Cr. Pilling took and chair and exercised his casting vote. (For Protection Crs. Sounness, Okotel, Lobo; Against Protection Crs. Pilling (2 votes), Hyams and Lipshutz)

CURRENT ISSUE

9/6/2015              Decision to abandon heritage protection

17/6/2015           Planning Permit Application for a 2 storey Aged Care Facility at 1 Wahgoo Road, Carnegie, lodged with Council for Council review.

21/7/2015            Frogmore House Demolished

13/9/2015            1 Wahgoo Road, Carnegie site aerial photo ex Nearmap

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15/9/2015           Advertising period for Planning Permit Application commenced, ie. plans made available for residents review and possible objections.

Included in the permit documentation provided for residents review is a proposal for the removal of 88 trees – we’d appreciate readers assistance in finding them in the above 13/9/2015 aerial photograph.

To aid you below is a aerial picture of the site circa January, 2015.

Frogmore H&L

And a picture taken during the July 2015 demolition works

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29/9/2015           Advertising period completed. Objections received to be considered by Council in near future.

FROGMORE – GLEN EIRA’s SHAME

Words fail, the pictures can do the talking.

GONE FOREVER

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Northwards Views

The truck is where Frogmore Stood

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WAS FOR 135 YEARS

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 October, 2014

 

 

FROGMORE – Department of Planning Appeal

Demolition on Frogmore House itself has started – on the southern side of the house the verandah has been removed and trees are being sawn down.   On the northern side the 1960’s-1990’s extensions (of no heritage merit) are rapidly being demolished.

At the end of last week GERA spoke with an Advisor in the Department of Planning – it seems despite the our assertions (which are supported by presented documentation and the National Trust*) that Council’s 9/6/2015 decision was fundamentally flawed**,  the Department of Planning is reluctant to get involved in a decision that has already been made by another level of government.

Many of the Save Frogmore supporters are wondering why

  • ministerial approval is required for either a Municipal Planning Scheme and Planning Scheme amendments, and
  • a provision for a Ministerial Direction was included in the Planning and Environment Act 1987.

Please keep calling/emailing the Minister for Planning’s office so that our next posting is not entitled “Vale Frogmore”.  Your calls/emails are having an impact.

 Email:                    richard.wynne@parliament.vic.gov.au

 Telephone:         (03) 8392 6175

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Footnotes

National Trust Letter* (click to enlarge)NT Letter P1 TNT Letter P2 Fundamental Flaws**

  • Disregards accredited Independent Heritage Advice received in January, 2015
  • lacks adequate strategic justification, particularly with regards the determination of net community benefit
  • is inconsistent with the Glen Eira Planning Scheme (Heritage and Aged Care) and the 1987 Planning and Environment Act objectives of planning for Victoria
  • denies all stakeholders access to the appropriate due planning scheme amendment process,

 

 

 

 

 

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Fundamental Flaws*

  • Disregards accredited Independent Heritage Advice received in January, 2015
  • lacks adequate strategic justification, particularly with regards the determination of net community benefit
  • is inconsistent with the Glen Eira Planning Scheme (Heritage and Aged Care) and the 1987 Planning and Environment Act objectives of planning for Victoria
  • denies all stakeholders access to the appropriate due planning scheme amendment process,

 

 

FROGMORE – D-Day Countdown

Update – 1/7/2015 – Buildings included in yesterday’s first photo now rubble.

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It appears the Victorian Department of Planning is “caught up in red tape” and even though aware that demolition is imminent, has yet to review Glen Eira Council’s highly questionable decision to abandon heritage protection for Frogmore House.

 Frogmore Demolition Works – 30/6/2015

 Demolition works are currently concentrated on the 1960’s – 1990’s Aged Care Extensions which were superficially connected to Frogmore and were not to be included in the Heritage Overlay. (Frogmore’s iconic tower is visible in the background)

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 Surrounding residents’ report that Frogmore House currently remains externally intact, however, internally doors, stairs and various other fittings have been removed.  Their “D-day” estimate, based on progress to date, is that Frogmore may well be “gone” by the end of the week (at the latest early next week).

 Apparently, the slow pace of the Department of Planning is attributable to a need for a specific rationale for a State Government Department to get involved in a decision that has already been made by another level of government.

Of course GERA believes that Glen Eira’s decision to abandon the heritage protection doesn’t stand up to planning scrutiny. The arguments presented on this site have also been presented to the Minister (14/6), together with relevant documentation (ie. January, 2015 Council commissioned Heritage Advisor’s Report and Recommendation, Council’s 3/2/2015 rationale to protect and 9/6/2015 rationale not to protect) and approximately 350 signed form letters from the community. We are also aware of that a large number of our readers (both within the Glen Eira community and the broader community) have also contacted the Department of Planning in support of heritage protection for Frogmore.

Given the recently announced State Heritage Review, residents are now wondering why the Department is not making the review of Frogmore a priority.   After all in January, 2015 Frogmore was unequivocally recommended for Heritage Protection at the Local Level (historic significance, architectural merit, rarity and associations), yet in making it’s 9/6/2015 abandon decision Council ignored that expert report and reverted to Council’s 2003 dubious decision not to apply heritage protection as Frogmore was not located within an identified heritage area.  Frogmore hasn’t moved but heritage standards and social attitudes have.

We know it’s a repetitive ask but clearly the above photo’s show that this really is your last chance to save Frogmore.   Please contact the Planning Minister to lobby for urgent action.

 Contact details

Email:                    richard.wynne@parliament.vic.gov.au

Telephone:         (03) 8392 6175

Mail:                      Level 20, 1 Spring Street, Melbourne, VIC 3000

Twitter:                http://twitter.com/rwynnemp

 

To assist you, please feel free to cut and paste the following guideline

Hon. Richard Wynne, Minister for Planning

Request to review Glen Eira City Council Planning Scheme Amendments 136 (interim Protection) and C137 (Local Heritage Overlay) for 1 Wahgoo Road, Carnegie (a.k.a. Frogmore)

I request that you urgently act to re-instate interim protection for Frogmore while Department of Planning reviews the strategic justifications presented by Glen Eira City Council in support of it’s 9/6/2015 resolution to abandon heritage protection for 1 Wahgoo Road, Carnegie (a.k.a. Frogmore).

Glen Eira Council has not addressed key planning issues and disregarded accredited heritage advice. The end result being a resolution to withdraw/abandon planning scheme amendments C136 (interim protection) and C137 (heritage protection) that

  • denies all stakeholders access to the appropriate due planning scheme amendment process,
  • lacks adequate strategic justification, and
  • is inconsistent with the Glen Eira Planning Scheme and the 1987 Planning and Environment Act objectives of planning for Victoria

FROGMORE’S LAST GASP

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Frogmore – October, 2014

Less than 10 days after Council’s seriously flawed 9/6/2015 resolution to abandon local heritage protection for Frogmore its days are clearly numbered.

  • Vegetation has been cleared, fences erected and portable toilets installed.
  • Planning Permit (GE/PP-28101/2015) for “Redevelopment of existing site for a new residential aged care facility” has been lodged.

As per our previous posting, GERA has been lobbying, Richard Wynne, Minister for Planning, to act to re-instate interim protection for Frogmore, to enable his Department’s review of the strategic justifications presented by Council in support of it’s 9/6/2015 abandon heritage protection resolution.

Clearly, time is of the essence and we again urge the community to email or call the Minister to request him to act.

PLEASE EMAIL OR CALL NOW – otherwise, the next time you hear of Frogmore it will be in a demolition announcement.

Contact details

Email:                    richard.wynne@parliament.vic.gov.au

Telephone:         (03) 8392 6175

Mail:                      Level 20, 1 Spring Street, Melbourne, VIC 3000

Twitter:              http://twitter.com/rwynnemp

 To assist you, please feel free to use the following guideline

Hon. Richard Wynne, Minister for Planning

Request to review Glen Eira City Council Planning Scheme Amendments 136 (interim Protection) and C137 (Local Heritage Overlay) for 1 Wahgoo Road, Carnegie (a.k.a. Frogmore)

I request that you urgently act to re-instate interim protection for Frogmore while Department of Planning reviews the strategic justifications presented by Glen Eira City Council in support of it’s 9/6/2015 resolution to abandon heritage protection for 1 Wahgoo Road, Carnegie (a.k.a. Frogmore).

Glen Eira Council has not addressed key planning issues and disregarded accredited heritage advice. The end result being a resolution to withdraw/abandon planning scheme amendments C136 and C137 that

  • denies all stakeholders access to the appropriate due planning scheme amendment process,
  • lacks adequate strategic justification, and
  • inconsistent with the Glen Eira Planning Scheme and the 1987 Planning and Environment Act objectives of planning for Victoria

NO MORE FROGMORE

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We regret to inform readers that at last Tuesday’s (9/6/2015) Council Meeting, Councillor’s resolved to withdraw/abandon heritage protection for Frogmore via the planning scheme amendment process (ie. heritage overlay).

Thus, Frogmore’s future will now be inappropriately determined by a planning permit approval process which does not consider heritage unless that heritage has been previously recognised via a heritage overlay.

The Age – 11/6/2015

National Trust 10/6/2015

Historic Home to face the wrecking ball – 11/6/2015 – Magic1278 (linked added 16/6/2015).

Glen Eira Leader – articled added 16/6/2015.

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GERA believes that the resolution to halt the amendment process

  • does not give appropriate consideration to the heritage retention values shown by the significant community support for the preservation of Frogmore.
  • does not recognise that the Planning Scheme Amendment process is the appropriate  heritage recognition process
  • has disregarded current expert heritage advice without sound reasons
  • has not provided adequate strategic justification for withdrawing/abandoning the amendments

AMENDMENT C136  and C137 BACKGROUND

These amendments were initiated by residents (ie. a petition comprising approximately 1,000 signatures) in December, 2014, and resulted in a Council decision to commission an Independent Local Heritage Assessment of Frogmore.  Council defined the Assessment’s terms of reference.

On 3/2/2015, based on the findings and recommendation of that Independent Local Heritage Assessment, Council initiated amendments C136 (Interim Protection) and C137 (Heritage Overlay, ie. permanent protection).

 “Frogmore is significant to the locality of Carnegie and Murrumbeena and City of Glen Eira and should be conserved as one of the cultural assets of the city.  …  Frogmore House should be included in the schedule to heritage over lay clause 43.01 by the Glen Eira Planning Scheme”.

 The above 2015 Frogmore Independent Heritage Assessment (a.k.a. Graeme Butler Report) recommendation was based on a detailed analysis of

  • Frogmore’s heritage merits (historic, architecture, rarity and associations) in its own right, and
  • in comparison with Glen Eira’s identified historic building stock

and measured the analysis results against the assessment criteria

  • applicable to Glen Eira’s 1996-2003 Municipal Heritage Survey and
  • Heritage Victoria’s current heritage criteria, assessed within the context of the Glen Eira municipality (5 of 8 criteria satisfied, only 1 is required to be met)

 The National Trust supports the findings and recommendation of the 2015 Frogmore Independent Local Heritage Assessment.

 On 9/6/2015, although nothing has occurred that would alter the 2015 Frogmore Local Heritage Assessment findings or recommendation, the resolution not to proceed to a hearing before an Independent Planning Panel was made, based on a casting vote.  In the absence of 3  Councillors which included the Mayor and Deputy Mayor (apologies from the Mayor and Deputy Mayor Delahunty and Cr. Esakoff declaring conflicts of interest which had arisen since their participation in the 3/2/2015 resolution to commence the protection process), the immediate past Mayor (Cr. Pilling) took the chair and the casting vote.   The voting was 4 to 3.

Voting for withdrawal/abandon – Crs. Hyams, Lipshutz and Pilling (2 votes)

Voting to continue the amendment process – Crs. Sounness, Okotel and Lobo.

 DISREGARDING ACCREDITED EXPERT ADVICE

  • The 2015 Frogmore Independent Heritage Advisor’s Local Assessment should supersede the 1996-2003 Glen Eira Municipal Heritage Survey, which excluded Frogmore from a local heritage overlay.   However, support for the withdrawal/abandoning of the Amendments C136 and C137, is reliant upon the 1996-2003 Heritage Survey.  A survey which contradicts the findings and recommendation of the 2015 Independent Heritage assessment.
  • The need to consider Frogmore in the context of the municipality (9/6/2015 Officer’s Report) does not justify abandoning the planning scheme amendments. Nor does it recognise that the detailed 2015 Frogmore Heritage Assessment was undertaken at the Local Level.
  • Asserting that the 2015 Frogmore Local Assessment recommended protection “because” of associations (refer Officers Report – 9/6/2015) “downplays” the 2015 Local Heritage Assessment’s recommendation that is based on a detailed assessment of Frogmore’s historic significance, architectural merit, rarity and associations.
  • Inappropriately referencing Heritage Victoria’s March, 2015 Assessment (which did not recommend State Level Protection), “blurs the line” between State and Local Assessments. When a State Assessment recommends State Level Protection, local level protection automatically follows. Conversely, the absence of State Level protection does not, and should not, impact recognition of significance at the Local Level.
  • The 1996-2003 decision not to include Frogmore in a heritage overlay was based on
    • Frogmore not being located in an “identified heritage area” – this is not a current heritage assessment criteria and arguably a stand-alone location enhances, rather than diminishes, heritage value.
    • Addition of extensions (1960’s – 1990’s) surrounding the building – Amendment C137 does not apply to these extensions which are described as being “superficial” in the 2015 Frogmore Local Assessment
    • Obscured street visibility (due to extensions) – not a heritage assessment criteria and able to be addressed during re-development.
    • Non original modifications – the 2015 Frogmore Local Assessment did not find these modifications significant.
  • Does not adequately consider the National Trust’s recommendation to preserve Frogmore via the applying a local heritage overlay.

STRATEGIC JUSTIFICATION

  • Given the 2015 Frogmore Independent Heritage Advisor’s Local Assessment findings and recommendation, Glen Eira Council’s decision not to proceed with local heritage protection for Frogmore is inconsistent with the

– purpose and objectives of the Glen Eira’s Municipal Strategic Statement (MSS – Clause 21.10) and

– Glen Eira’s Planning Scheme (GEPS – Clause 41.01 – Purpose) and

– objectives of planning for Victoria, as identified by the Planning and Environment Act 1987.

The supporters of these amendments (C136 and C137) agree with the objectives and purposes of these documents and have consistently argued that good planning should result in an outcome that would retain Frogmore for current and future residents without preventing redevelopment (Aged Care or other permitted use), albeit a “scaled back” development. The protection of heritage values is a valid planning consideration in planning decisions.

  • The site is a large site (8,000 sqm, of which approximately 1,000 sqm accommodates Frogmore House and its significant vegetation identified in the 2015 Frogmore Local Heritage Assessment) that presents a unique opportunity for a good planning outcome that caters for multiple community usages, ie. preservation of heritage and redevelopment as an Aged Care Facility that is consistent with and encouraged by the above documents.

Abandoning Amendment C137 will not put in place orderly planning controls that conserve and enhance buildings identified as significant while also providing for sympathetic redevelopment that balances the present and future interests and needs of Glen Eira’s residents.

  • The suggestion that planning issues (particularly those related to heritage issues on large lots) are more appropriately addressed during the planning permit approval process (Officer’s Reports 3/2/2015 and 9/6/2015) is inconsistent with the above documents and will result in ad hoc, piecemeal decisions. The planning permit process only considers planning controls that are in place – no heritage controls = no Frogmore.

Abandoning Amendment C137 will not provide an appropriate forum to consider Frogmore’s heritage.

  • It is extremely difficult to see “The Minister for Planning has, to date, not responded to Council’s request of 4 February 2015 to place interim heritage control over the land” as a justification to withdraw/abandon the amendments.

Additional comments

  • No plans for the proposed redevelopment have been lodged with Council and, contrary to Officer’s Reports (3/2/2015 & 9/6/2015), the site has yet to be acquired by the potential developer. The sales agreement is conditional upon obtaining planning approval.
  • Net Community Benefit (NCB) – refer 9/6/2015 Officer’s Report (Section 6 Public Notice – Objectors), is frequently mentioned yet rarely documented or quantified. Recent discussions determine its value as being 120 beds.
    • No detailed professional analysis substantiating this determination (that NCB = 120 beds) has been presented.  The potential developer’s optimal proposed development comprises a 120 bed facility and the loss of Frogmore. Despite the 2015 Frogmore Local Heritage Assessment, this NCB determination clearly assigns a zero value to heritage.
    • Neither the Officer’s Report (9/6/2015) or Councillor discussion refer to the proposed developer’s planning conference comment that while their analysis indicated that a 60 bed facility was viable and would enable Frogmore to be retained, the developer was not interested in a lesser development and would prefer to look for an alternative site
  • That the potential developer had acted in good faith, undertaken due diligence and incurred significant costs in identifying the property as suitable and plan preparation (Officer’s Report’s 3/2/2015 & 9/6/2015 and Councillor discussion). While this is a regrettable situation, it is however, not a strategic justification for abandoning the heritage protection process.
  • That by abandoning the heritage overlay process, the potential developer avoids lengthy delays in site redevelopment. This is not a strategic justificiation for abandoning the heritage protection process.

It sets a dangerous precedent if unsubstantiated Net Community Benefit, “good faith”, costs incurred by the developer and the avoidance of developmental delays are deemed to provide sufficient justification for abandoning the planning scheme amendments. The protection of heritage values is a valid planning consideration in planning decisions.

In conclusion,

  • we re-iterate our earlier comments that Glen Eira Council has not addressed key planning issues and disregarded accredited heritage advice. The end result being a decision to withdraw/abandon planning scheme amendments C136 and C137 that is without adequate strategic justification and denies all stakeholders access to the appropriate due planning scheme amendment process, and

– reviews the 2015 Local Heritage Assessment and the withdraw/abandon justifications

– decides an appropriate course of action ie. either deny Council’s application to withdraw or abandon Amendments C136 & C137 or use Ministerial Direction to ensure that an appropriate heritage recognition process is undertaken.

SAVE FROGMORE – 9/6/2015 OFFICERS REPORT (Part 5)

Following on from our request for residents’ assistance in lobbying Councillors not to vote for the recommendations included in the Officer’s Report, ie.

  • abandoning Planning Scheme Amendment C137 to apply a Local (Municipal) Level Heritage Overlay (HO154) on Frogmore House (1 Wahgoo Street, Carnegie).
  • withdrawing the request to the Minister for interim local heritage controls over the land (Amendment 136)

this posting will focus on the rationale, presented in that report, for the above recommendations.

When Councillors vote on the above recommendations they will be voting to either retain or overturn their 3/2/2015 decision to preserve Frogmore.  They need to ask themselves four questions

  • Is Frogmore House worthy of heritage protection at the local (municipal) level?
    • The Council commissioned 2015 independent heritage advisor’s local (municipal) level assessment says it is.  Nothing has occurred to change that assessment.
    • The Heritage Council of Victoria (the governing body of Heritage Victoria) has recommended that Council applies local heritage overlay on Frogmore
      • Addendum (added 9/6/2015) – Please note, the above comment was based on residents’ advice related to their discussions with Heritage Victoria as to the Heritage Council of Victoria’s 4/6/2015 decision. Subsequent advice (received from Cr. Hyams) states that “I have been informed that Heritage Victoria is recommending to Council that we consider applying the local heritage overlay to Frogmore, not that we apply it.”Given the above differing versions, we now believe that any decision made, prior to receipt and review of written advice from the Heritage Council, would be premature.
    • The National Trust has advised that the Trust will be making a similar recommendation for Council to apply a local heritage overlay.
  • Is the preservation of Frogmore consistent with the objectives of the both the Glen Eira Planning Scheme and State Government’s planning objectives
    • Council’s Planning Scheme (Clause 21.10) includes
      • Protecting places identified as having architectural, cultural or historical significance.
      • Ensuring sympathetic redevelopment and renovation of areas and places identified as having architectural, cultural or historic significance in the municipality.
      • Enhance knowledge and popular understanding of Glen Eira’s architectural, cultural and historic heritage.
    • the objectives of planning for Victoria (as identified in the Planning and Environment Act 1987) of
      • Conserving and enhancing those buildings, areas or other places which are of scientific, aesthetic, architectural or historical interest, or otherwise of special cultural value; and
      • Balancing the present and future interests of all Victorians.
  • Does the Officer’s Report present sound reasons in support of its recommendation to abandon local level heritage controls? These reasons are presented the reports Section 8 – Basis for Recommendation .

GERA believes that the Officer’s Report does not present sound reasons in support of it’s recommendations by

.  not recognising or emphasising the findings and recommendation of the Independent Heritage Advisors’ Local Level Assessment of Frogmore

.  “blurring” the boundaries between Local and State Level Heritage Protection+.

.  not considering that the Glen Eira Planning Scheme provides for both heritage retention and re-development to meet community needs.

+On 3rd February 2015, Councillors voted to “Initiate a heritage protection process”  and by doing so did not support an alternative proposal to “Not re-open the heritage issue at a municipal level but abide by whatever decision is made by the Heritage Council”.   Consequently, the resulting Planning Scheme Amendments (C136 and C137) relates to Local Level Heritage Protection and not State Level Heritage Protection*.  Heritage Victoria’s finding not to recognise Frogmore’s significance at the State level is simply not relevant to any discussion on Frogmore’s significance at the local level.

  • How best can I represent residents?

By

.  not supporting the Officer’s recommendations and allowing the planning process to run its due course in accordance with the planning scheme, and thereby

.  Ensuring that a good planning outcome is achieved by recognising that both heritage and redevelopment can co-exist.  A good planning outcome is not one that forgoes heritage to provide for redevelopment maximisation.

Section 8 – Basis for Recommendation

  • No additional heritage consultant assessments have been provided by any party since the amendment was exhibited”

We are struggling to understand how this can be considered a reason for recommending abandoning the local level heritage protection process – a local level heritage assessment has been undertaken and recomends heritage protection.

In addition, Council has received a recommendation from Heritage Victoria to apply a local Heritage Overlay to Frogmore and, if not already received will shortly be receiving, a similar recommendation from the National Trust.

Residents are wondering how many assessments recommending heritage protection are required by Council.

  •  “The 2015 assessment (Graeme Butler Report) found 1 Wahgoo Road, Carnegie should be included in the heritage overlay because of its link to early developers of the city, a former Councilor and the son of the architect of the Caulfield Town Hall”.

 “Associations” (ie. links to the life, or works, of a person or group/s of persons) is a valid factor in determining heritage significance. “Associations” is one of many factors included in heritage criteria used by the National Trust, Heritage Victoria and Council.

 However, to imply that the 2015 recommendation was made because of it’s link to early developers of the city, a former Councillor and the one of the architect of the Caulfield Town Hall” diminishes the substance/content of that assessment.

The 2015 Frogmore assessment includes

  • a detailed local level heritage assessment of Frogmore based on
    • Glen Eira’s 1996 Heritage Management Plan (insert link) which is the document referenced by clause 21.10 of the Glen Eira Planning Scheme
    • Heritage Victoria’s Heritage Assessment Criteria. (insert link)
  • a comparison of Frogmore with other properties in Glen Eira.

In summary, the 2015 assessment determined that Frogmore was significant due to

  • Historic Significance – demonstrates pattern of settlement and growth of the Municipality development and the dominance of pastoral activities into the early 1900’s.
  • Rarity – As a late 1880’s former farm residence, Frogmore is rare within Glen Eira where other surviving Victorian-era building stock were residences of professional Melbourne City workers and are not associated with working farms.
  • Aesthetics – Architectural design and features (diachromatic brick work, diachromatic tower and verandahs)
  • Associations – with the achievements, cultural and spiritual associations of
    • All owners, in particular
      • William Lyall (remote association) reknowned pastoralist noted for innovative animal husbandry and pasture planting
      • Archibald McLauren (significant association), a pioneering pastoralist, notable in two colonies (NSW and Port Phillip) who is attributed with commissioning the design and construction of Frogmore.
    • Eminent Architect Sydney W. Smith
      • Frogmore House was designed by Sydney W. Smith (son of architect Sydney William Smith who designed Caulfield Town Hall) early in his long and distinguished career.
      • No other known example of Sydney W. Smith’s 1880’s work directly parallels the design. Of the buildings designed by the Smith’s, only the Caulfield Town Hall (father) and Frogmore House (son) survive in Glen Eira.
  •  Frogmore circa 1920 title
    • Condition – The condition of the building is good.
    • The original features of the house remain largely intact
      • Except for one, all building alterations (i.e. newer building annexes which tend to obscure the view of Frogmore and are excluded from the the proposed heritage overlay) have been largely superficial.
      • Residents have also commented that the buildings continued usage as an aged care facility until December, 2014, indicates that Frogmore’s structural condition is sound and internally is well maintained.
  • A number of submitters believe that the former house is the work of Architect JosephReed. The Executive Director of Heritage Victoria report concludes that it is the work of Sydney W Smith. The report states that “Frogmore is an early design by Melbourne architect Sydney W Smith. Smith’s work is well-represented in the VHR. Frogmore is not an outstanding or notable example of Smith’s work.” … and …” An assessment by the Executive Director of Heritage Victoria has established that it does not meet the any of the criteria for inclusion in the Victorian Heritage Register. Heritage Victoria’s Interim Protection Order over the land was not renewed and expired on the 19th May 2015”

Both of the above comments relate to State Level, rather than Local Level, Heritage Protection and as such they have little, or no, bearing on Planning Scheme Amendments C136 and C137.

  • The Minister for Planning has, to date, not responded to Council’s request of 4th February to place an interim heritage control over the land.

Rather than providing a basis to abandon the request, this is a reason for “follow-up”, particularly as the Interim Protection Order applied by Heritage Victoria expired on 17th May, 2015.

  • “The eight criteria (A to H) used to assess Heritage significance is the same for the State Government as it is for Local Government.   The difference is in the context that they are applied.   For State significance, a place or object is compared against other throughout Victoria, at the “State level”. For this planning scheme amendment proposing permanent controls, 1 Wahgoo Road, Carnegie needs to be considered in the context of the municipality, at the local level”

As well as highlighting that the above identifies Planning Scheme Amendment C137 as being a local (Municipal) level heritage control, we also highlight that 1 Wahgoo Road (ie. Frogmore) was considered within the context of the municipality by the Council commissioned Independent Heritage Advisor’s Assessment.   That assessment considered Frogmore’s heritage significance in it’s own right and via a comparison with other properties in Glen Eira.   Frogmore was considered to significantly meet 5 of the 8 heritage criteria, hence the conclusion and recommendation was

“Frogmore House is significant to the City of Glen Eira historically and aesthetically … and should be conserved as one of the cultural assets of the city”.

 “Frogmore House should be included in the schedule to heritage over lay clause 43.01 by the Glen Eira Planning Scheme”.

  • The City of Glen Eira Heritage Management Plan assessed it at the local level, in the context of the municipality. It was assigned a “C” grading. It did not recommend it for permanent heritage protection.
  • The 1996 City of Glen Eira Heritage Management Plan as it pertains to Frogmore should be superseded by the Independent Heritage Advisor’s Local Level Heritage Assessment.
  • During the 1996-2003 Municipal Heritage Assessment Frogmore was excluded from Heritage Protection as it was not located “within an identified heritage area”. Such a criteria is questionable since it can be argued that the heritage value of a building is enhanced, not diminished, by it’s stand-alone location
  • The 1996 Heritage Management and the results of 1996-2003 Municipal Heritage Assessment are now over a decade old. Given the changes in social attitudes and demography that have occurred in that decade, Council should consider undertaking another Municipal Heritage Assessment.
  • “In the absence of any heritage controls, a planning permit will still be required to re-develop the site. This will involve a public notice process and the ability to lodge objections. Any decision of Council can also be challenged at the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal”
  • Council is reminded that without any permanent heritage controls, the planning permit approval process does not ensure the preservation of heritage – under the Glen Eira Planning Scheme, unless permanent or interim controls are in place, a demolition permit may be issued without first obtaining planning permit approval.  This evidenced by Council’s (January, 2015) initiation of interim protection order on Frogmore.
  • Heritage protection and Planning Permit Approval Process are two separate components of planning
    • Local Heritage Controls – Protects places identified as having architectural, cultural or historical significance at the local level.
    • Planning Permit Approval Process – Ensures sympathetic redevelopment and renovation of areas and places identified as having architectural, cultural or historic significance in the municipality.

 GERA COMMENTS

We believe our above comments substantiate our recommendation to

  • not support the Officer’s “Abandon” and “Withdraw” recommendations, and
  • support proceeding with the heritage protection process as included in Planning Scheme Amendments C136 (Interim Protection) and C137 (Permanent Protection).

Such a decision would be in line with

  • Council’s responsibility to ensure that planning schemes have a sound basis and that good reasons should be provide when expert advice is disregarded.
  • Council’s Planning Scheme – Clause 21.10 (surprisingly, not mentioned in Section 8 – Basis for Recommendation)
  • The planning objectives identified in the Victorian Planning and Environment Act 1987 (surprisingly, not mentioned in Section 8 – Basis for Recommendation)
  • due planning processes

We again stress to Councillors that, even though the Planning Scheme discourages Aged Care Facilities in the Neighbourhood Residential Zone, residents are not opposed to the continued use of the site for Residential Aged Care. However, residents are opposed to a planning outcome that does not recognise that on large sites such as Frogmore, good design enables

  • heritage retention without preventing redevelopment and
  • redevelopment without the loss of recognised heritage assets.

 Please also note that that the Officer’s Report (in its summary of the objection responses) refers to Social and Economic benefits (a.ka. Net Community Benefit or NCB) outweighing Heritage Value, so we re-iterate our earlier planning conference comments that

  • the Glen Eira community, with accredited professional heritage advice and after a detailed community review of proposed development plans, is the appropriate body to decide what constitutes N CB and
  • the arithmetic equation presented at the planning conference was
    • simplistic (ie being solely based on the difference between what could be built if Frogmore is not retained vs. what could be built if Frogmore is retained – NCB = 120 residential aged care beds – 60 residential aged care beds)
    • Assigned a zero value to heritage preservation.   This is contrary to well established planning principles that recognise and value heritage retention – such a valuation should be undertaken by accredited professionals and the results may outweigh the NCB value of 60 beds.  
    • No detailed substantiation for the upper (120 bed) or lower (60 bed) limits

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Footnote:

 Within Australia there are three levels of Heritage Protection or Registration, in line with the three tiers of government, each level of assessment is undertaken by different authorities.

Although, each level uses similar assessment criteria, the scope of their review varies in accordance with the level of the assessment:

  • Australian – National Trust – significance assessed at the National Level eg. building the stock is assessed by comparison with other buildings in Australia.
  • State – Heritage Victoria and the Heritage Council – significance assessed at the State Level eg. the building stock comparative assessment is restricted to Victoria
  • Local – Local Authorities (Councils) – significance assessed at the Municipal Level, eg. the building stock comparative assessment is restricted to the Municipality.

Under this structure, the way people live is recognised by enabling protection for local icons.